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Voters made decisions on car repairs, assisted suicide and medical marijuana in the statewide election.
Question 1: Right to Repair
Voters approved the “Right to Repair” ballot question, which would give consumers more choices when fixing a car in today's election.
According to numbers on boston.com, 85 percent of voters approved the question, with 51 percent of the state reporting at 10:15 p.m.
The initiative requires automakers to make computer software codes for repairs more accessible to independent repair shops and car owners by 2015. But in July, state legislators devised a compromise that would give carmakers until 2018 to comply with the new law, according to a Boston Globe report.
By approving Question 1, voters trumped that compromise and enacted the “Right to Repair” act as written on the ballot.
“Voters sent a clear message to automakers—it’s my car, I paid for it, I’ll get it fixed where I want, not where some big corporation tells me to,” said Art Kinsman of the Massachusetts Right to Repair Committee Tuesday night. “Right to Repair is about true ownership. When you buy a car from a manufacturer’s dealer, you ought to have the information necessary to fix that vehicle. Technology should never leave the rights of car owner behind.”
Question 2: Death with Dignity
Widely referred to as a question to support assisted suicide, the "Death with Dignity" ballot initiative would allow doctors to prescribe medication that a patient could take to end their own lives.
As of 11 p.m. Tuesday, the question is too close to call—51 percent in favor, 49 percent against—with 67 percent of the state reporting results.
The vote remained too close to call at 7:55 a.m. Wednesday, with 93 percent of the state reporting results—51 percent against, 49 percent in favor. There is approximately a 38,000-vote differential.
However, according to WHDH 7News, supporters of the "Death with Dignity" act conceded Wednesday morning. A spokesman for the campaign told 7News that "regrettably, we fell short."
Question 3: Medical Marijuana
You may be able to use marijuana legally, if your doctor determines that it will help with your medical condition.
Voters approved Question 3, which will allow doctors to prescribe marijuana as part of a treatment, Tuesday.
With 51 percent of the state reporting at 10:15 p.m., boston.com reported that 63 percent voted in favor of the medical marijuana question.
Massachusetts is the 18th state to legalize medical marijuana. According to the Boston Globe, under the new law, patients with HIV, multiple sclerosis, hepatitis C, or other conditions can obtain a card from the state allowing them to purchase the drug.
CrystalbusheyA
5:12 am on Wednesday, November 7, 2012
How is it too close for question 2?? The answer is in the numbers 51% 49% it was close but there's also an obvious winner here.
Vicky Geary
6:41 am on Wednesday, November 7, 2012
When this was reported at 11pm, 33% of votes had not yet been tallied. That is a significant enough amount that the 51%/49% could change. In fact, earlier in the evening (around 9), question 2 was actually passing with early results showing a much different ratio of yes/no.
Kevin MacDonald
6:40 am on Wednesday, November 7, 2012
I am glad that the people of Massachusetts voted to give repair shops the rights to repair. It is unfortunate to have to wait until 2015. Why would State lawmakers want to make it 2018? Find out who the legislators are who were against this bill and vote them out of office!!!
Stan N.
10:01 am on Wednesday, November 7, 2012
Right to repair was not needed. Repair shops subscribe to a service and get all the codes. This was simply an attempt (and a successful one at that) to get intellectual property from the auto manufacturers. I wonder if any car makers will stop selling cars in Massachusetts. Obviously, the big ones like Ford and VW will continue to, but I could see someone like Fiat only selling in bordering states.
Chris L.
10:08 am on Wednesday, November 7, 2012
sorry, but my finacee purchased a used VW a few months ago, and it only came with the valet key (no keyless entry). The VW dealer wants to charge her $300 for a key with keyless. The physical key can be had on ebay for $30, and there is less than 10 minutes of labor involved. Consumers are being GOUGED for the "intellectual property".
Kudos to the voters of MA for getting Question 1 right!
Chris L.
10:35 am on Wednesday, November 7, 2012
I see there was no binding resolution on reading comprehension, or math word problems.
$300
$30 for the key
10 min of labor at $70/hr= $11.66
the coding= $258.34
and you can only get it from one place(VW dealers).
How is that not a rip-off/mini-monopoly?
Bobby James
10:59 am on Wednesday, November 7, 2012
@Chris L - I've priced this all out as I wanted to make a back up of my key.
The key cutout alone is $30. The FOB that the cutout goes into is $70.
Since you don't have the original FOB they actually have to reprogram the car in order to program the key.
Kind of a pain in the backside. You can program new FOBs in order to make a backup on your own if you have two other FOBs.
I agree that it should be cheaper, but there is more to it than you let on.
Chris L.
11:10 am on Wednesday, November 7, 2012
I'm aware that they need to place a key in the ignition, while plugging into the OBD port of your vehicle to reprogram both. That's the ~10 min of labor i spoke of. The real "cost" in this is the actual intellectual property of the code.
At least we both agree that its too high.
Michelle Cole
7:51 am on Wednesday, November 7, 2012
Can someone please tell me what the final result of question #2 was?? I'm going crazy!
Mary MacDonald
7:56 am on Wednesday, November 7, 2012
It hasn't been officially called yet, but the initiative backers have conceded.
http://www1.whdh.com/news/articles/politics/massachusetts/12008998795975/backers-of-mass-doctor-assisted-suicide-concede/
Avon Barksdale
8:02 am on Wednesday, November 7, 2012
Damn, grandma won this round.
Robert Gates
8:12 am on Wednesday, November 7, 2012
Statehouse News Service has called the question, saying the Death with Dignity Coalition has conceded. 51% no to 49% yes
Ben Jackson
10:30 am on Wednesday, November 7, 2012
This is too bad. Government doesn't get any bigger than when it's telling you how you can die.
Rose S.
8:35 am on Wednesday, November 7, 2012
What about Salem's CPA question?
gene
8:41 am on Wednesday, November 7, 2012
The tax and spenders won
Les Masterson
9:10 am on Wednesday, November 7, 2012
The story was updated this morning...
The vote remained too close to call at 7:55 a.m. Wednesday, with 93 percent of the state reporting results—51 percent against, 49 percent in favor. There is approximately a 38,000-vote differential.
However, according to WHDH 7News, supporters of the "Death with Dignity" act conceded Wednesday morning. A spokesman for the campaign told 7News that "regrettably, we fell short."
jason wert
9:37 am on Wednesday, November 7, 2012
Yay! Medical marijauna! Congrats to everyone who really needed this to pass!
quasimodo
9:50 am on Wednesday, November 7, 2012
Makes lot of sense. The people of Mass think, overwhelmingly, that the right to repair one's car is much more important than the right to have control over one's OWN life!
Adam Edward
10:25 am on Wednesday, November 7, 2012
Anyone who thinks assisted suicide is okay, I would like you to come explain to my kids that it is okay for me to take my own life without telling them. If you really want to take your own life there is plenty of ways to do so. Take 100 tylenol and that will probably produce the same effect.
Ben Jackson
10:29 am on Wednesday, November 7, 2012
You're not making much sense there.
There's no family notifiation requirement in MA for *any* medical treatment or procedure for any consenting adult. There should never be for this, either.
Avon Barksdale
10:42 am on Wednesday, November 7, 2012
Perhaps you could run this as a test case and see what happens?
Dave Miskinis
10:54 am on Wednesday, November 7, 2012
Why would you not tell them?
quasimodo
1:01 pm on Wednesday, November 7, 2012
How can we have a serious discussion with people like you. The "assisted suicide" question was for terminally ill patients, most likely helpless, in pain, and bed-ridden. What do you tell the doc? I have a huge headache, could you please bring me 100 tylonol? If this happen to me, will you come to visit me at the hospice, with some chocolates, and tell me some funny jokes to make me feel better?
What a joke know-it-all people like you are.
Adam Edward
1:08 pm on Wednesday, November 7, 2012
Why don't we just have the doctors carry guns and when someone decides they want to go just have the doctor put a bullet through their head. If you really want to kill yourself it is very simple to do so. To force doctors to go against their morals and the hippocratic oath seems wrong to me.
Owen
12:33 pm on Thursday, November 8, 2012
Why don't you explain the issue to your kids? Why is society responsible for how you relate things to them?
Andovahhh Resident
1:05 pm on Thursday, November 8, 2012
You want me to explain this one to your kids? I would be happy to take that parenting responsibility on for you, but it probably makes more sense to raise your kids to have empathy and faith that people can make very personal decisions for themselves without outside interference.
Joseph G. Paquette
10:33 am on Wednesday, November 7, 2012
Waltham Patch ... Thanks For Not Respecting My Earlier Email in which i requested you to report the results of both the binding and non binding ballot questions!
Chris L.
10:36 am on Wednesday, November 7, 2012
You're online now, correct?
Look it up yourself!!
saul glick
10:34 am on Wednesday, November 7, 2012
Death with dignity? To the best of my knowledge, if a person commits suicide, assisted or not, the will lose their life insurance. Why would you want to screw your beneficiaries out of their life insurance?
Avon Barksdale
10:44 am on Wednesday, November 7, 2012
"Most life insurance policies contain something called a contestability clause. It generally states that within a two-year period of purchase, the insurance company will not pay out if the policyholder commits suicide. However, after that two-year period is up, the policy will pay out, regardless of when the person dies. This grace period exists in every state"
http://www.insure.com/articles/lifeinsurance/assisted-suicide.html
Kevin N
10:45 am on Wednesday, November 7, 2012
Saul - The point is that you should be able to make that decision on your own. Do you need government to make that decision for you? I do not.
Chris L.
10:49 am on Wednesday, November 7, 2012
Ironic...the Democrats' rallying cry for women was to allow them the choice of what to do with their bodies, yet this ultimate form of control over self was defeated.
Avon Barksdale
10:53 am on Wednesday, November 7, 2012
Yeah, only "Democrats" voted this down, great analysis. The deciding factor in this one was level of formal education - check the results by town, most cities heavily populated by voters without degrees (Fall River, Lowell, New Bedford, etc.) went 65-35 against the initiative, and the opposite was true in places with the highest percentage of degrees. Make what you want of it, but this measure was defeated by churches having more influence over their flocks than logic.
Cassie Feller
10:58 am on Wednesday, November 7, 2012
Because some people place the comfort and final wishes of their dying parents/spouse ahead of money?
Paul Bishop
10:38 am on Wednesday, November 7, 2012
What you clearly miss is the "Assisted" part. Adam, these people are searching for a way to "safely" end their suffering. For a way to be sure it will work. They have already chosen to die, and that isn't your choice to make for them. All this allows is for a terminal patient to obtain a way that will be effective and painless.
As a patient of a chronic, incurable, degenerative illness- I hope to never want to have the option. If I do want that option, in the end, however-- who are you to tell me that I have I to spend that last six months full of needles and hoses?
Avon Barksdale
10:43 am on Wednesday, November 7, 2012
Hey, at least for those last six months you'll have the Right To Repair, whatever the hell that means.
Adam Edward
12:56 pm on Wednesday, November 7, 2012
I never said you have to spend your time suffering, If life really sucks and you don't want to live it is extremly easy to kill yourself. Telling doctors they have to help is against their code of ethics. Also seeing as there is no tracking what is stopping these pills from ending up on the streets like every other pill out there. Doctors make mistakes all the time and miracles happen everyday.
Amber
9:10 pm on Wednesday, November 7, 2012
As far as I knew, it made it an option for doctors who practice, it didn't mandate that they do it.
Rebecca
10:51 am on Wednesday, November 7, 2012
I think the question is more to do (i did not pay attention enough to vote and risk voting on something I did not want) with if one is put in the position that if they are ill in many ways and are not able to fully function or even partial function to be around for their kids and family (and many that have nobody), they should not have to suffer through the physical and emotional pain of the illnesses.
I do agree that if one can function in society and has kids that depend on them, then, no they do not have the right to leave their children in that manner. My understanding of this questions was for those who would not have any good quality of life physically, emontionally or mentally and not be able to interact in their children and familes lives.
Earnhardt
10:58 am on Wednesday, November 7, 2012
If you have ever watched someone slowly die a painful or drawn out death then there is no reason to to deny terminal illness patients this right. If you have ever had that feeling of helplessness standing there knowing you can do nothing to help them you know what I mean. I think it was simply in the way it was written that sent the wrong message.
Geoff
11:52 am on Wednesday, November 7, 2012
for me it was the process through which the law was written and seemed too many loopholes not only to kill somebody who may not be terminally ill (either suicide for a healthy individual or also the fact that it could be easily tricked into having somebody killed who didn't want to for the will money for example)
Beatrice Mendez
4:49 pm on Wednesday, November 7, 2012
I've known a few terminally ill people, one of whom experienced the wrath of stage 4 cancer, and they all wanted to live as long as possible. The cancer patient was told she had 6 months to live. She lived another three years. I am so happy to have been in her life for those three additional years.
Diana
11:54 am on Thursday, November 8, 2012
If you WANT to live as long as possible, no one's going to stop you. Good lord, the glurge.
Robert Lambert
11:06 am on Wednesday, November 7, 2012
I thought only terminally ill patients, as diagnosed by their physicians, would have had their right to end their lives painlessly supported by this initiative. Why is there so much rhetoric about ordinary folks choosing suicide as an option when they've got no terminal illness involved? I don't get it, did I read that initiative wrong? was there something in there that said any one who wanted to could self-terminate at any time? I really don't remember seeing that in there at all...
Avon Barksdale
11:11 am on Wednesday, November 7, 2012
Robert, your memory is fine, this is another great example of how to defeat a ballot measure through fear and obfuscation. Remember a few years back when the measure to allow convenience stores to sell booze flipped from Yes to No in the final week because the Mass Patrolmens Association put out all those ads saying that it would lead to blood in the streets from drunk driving deaths? Same thing, except here the blood is in your momma's bedroom.
Paul Bishop
11:15 am on Wednesday, November 7, 2012
Robert, you didn't read it wrong... but that won't stop the people who are SO SURE that they are RIGHT. Religious zealots only see what they have been told to see, despite whatever may be in front of their own faces.
Earnhardt
11:25 am on Wednesday, November 7, 2012
You are right. Also, at least to me, it seemed like more information came out yesterday, than at any time leading up to it. I could be wrong on that, If you had your mind already made up and didn't see or read or hear the info, you were not voting fully informed. I looked at it from what I have dealt with over the years and trying to see it through they eyes of someone with no hope left.
IMHO
11:32 am on Wednesday, November 7, 2012
It is stated in the right to die legislation that the cause of death will not be listed as suicide but as the terminal illness that the person has. I would think that would mean that the insurance company would still have to pay out.
peter lucci
11:33 am on Wednesday, November 7, 2012
Let me see if I have this straight: Joe Veno, the self-proclaimed expert, came through with another o'fer. Been saying that Romney, Brown and Tisei were guaranteed winners....oh well Joe you struck out once again....3 losers, much like yourself...keep it up Joe!!!!!
Gene Pinkham
11:52 am on Wednesday, November 7, 2012
One major problem with Death with Dignity is that while you are killing yourself you are requiring other people to get involved. Like the Pharmacists who fill the scripts. Why don't you just have them load a single bullet in a gun? Oh I know, Martha Coakley said that maybe Catholics shouldn't work at hospitals.
Diana
11:58 am on Thursday, November 8, 2012
Maybe they should work at Catholic hospitals, which should of course decline from accepting any government funding. Everyone wins!
When you take a job, you're obliged to fulfill the requirements of that job. If you don't wish to do that, find other employment.
Kelly
12:46 pm on Wednesday, November 7, 2012
Between the Catholic Churches who told all their puppets to vote No and the Medical Soceity and Doctors who lobbyed againsty this because they would rather have terminal patients live longer so they can rack up medical bills -- that is why this bill didn't pass!!!
Next
12:46 pm on Wednesday, November 7, 2012
Assisted suicide is just plain wrong. We shouldn't be killing ourselves. I watched my dad die of cancer, he died naturally, he didn't kill himself. That's just screwy.
quasimodo
1:04 pm on Wednesday, November 7, 2012
And I watched my younger sister die of breast cancer. She wanted to die peacefully, but people like, who interfere with her freedom, made her unnecessarily suffer. Is this how you get your kicks?
TewksParent
1:45 pm on Wednesday, November 7, 2012
Not having this law did not stop your sister from killing herself.
Don
12:47 pm on Wednesday, November 7, 2012
Question 2, hell, they'll jump off a bridge anyhow. Only 1 question left, Where can I buy a few of those big BAMBUs?
David Moisan
1:14 pm on Wednesday, November 7, 2012
I sit on the Commission on Disabilities. We didn't take a stand and I don't represent the Commission in this, but I was really uncomfortable with Question #2. Many of the people whose interests I represent would be directly affected by this.
I have heard of some horrible, scary stories about burned-out caregivers deciding to end the lives of those they're looking after. I have nothing but compassion for those caregivers (I was one) but I cannot see the consequences as anything but terrible.
I had to ask, "Would the right to die, become the obligation to die? Or the duty to die?" Many severely disabled people ponder the same question.
Kelly
1:23 pm on Wednesday, November 7, 2012
Seriously David??? Apparently all the lies and scare tatics worked on you. "Burned-out caregivers" could push disabled people down a flight of stairs or off a bridge. "Burned-out caregivers" could shoot or strangle a disabled person too. We are not talking about DISABLED people. We are talking about TERMINALLY ILL peple! Please get your facts straight as you are sending out misinformation and are considered part of the problem!!
blueskies
5:01 pm on Wednesday, November 7, 2012
and burned out care givers cannot force the terminally ill person to go to the dr themselves, get the script themselves, go to the pharmacy and get it filled themselves and then prepare and take the medication. Caregivers may be amazing people but they cannot fulfill all of these requirements of the law as stated.
Owen Cash
9:53 pm on Wednesday, November 7, 2012
I shouldn't have to tell you that disabilities =/= terminally ill.
Also, your disclaimer that you are not speaking for the Commission, is pretty weak.
Kelly
1:16 pm on Wednesday, November 7, 2012
I am sorry for your loss Next. We live in a country founded on freedom and choice. This too is about choice. It may not be for everyone but those against it should not take away the choice or right of another based on their belief system. I am confident it will be back on the ballot and will get voted in the next time.
Indiana
1:30 pm on Wednesday, November 7, 2012
I watched a close relative die of brain cancer...nobody should have to go through that agony if they choose not to. I never want to see someone suffer like that again.This should have passed
Maura
1:52 pm on Wednesday, November 7, 2012
If you are against suicide, don't kill yourself.
Jennifer Nagle
2:07 pm on Wednesday, November 7, 2012
Several inaccuracies here... 1.) NO doctor would be obligated to particiapate in the patient's request. The patient would then have to find another doctor (2 unaffiliated doctors to be accurate). 2.) I can't even get my local pharmacy to carry a regular supply of my daily medication, I think they could easily find an excuse if they did not want to carry "this" medication. 3.) As stated by someone above, "Death with Dignity" would not be termed "suicide" on a death certificate, it would be the incurable disease the person was to soon pass from. 4.) This would only be for terminally ill, Massachusetts residents, with LESS than 6 months to live, agreed to by two seperate unaffiliated physicians, the patient must be mentally stable, physically declining, physically in constant pain. The person, if agreed by the doctors and is able to aquire the perscription, is able to die peacefully with loved ones surrounding them, the ability to request a medical professional's presence, does NOT take 100 pills (scare tactics brought forward in commercials), but drinks approx 4 oz of fluid and peacefully falls asleep. Death comes within 15 minutes of injesting the liquid. Being terminally ill with a disease that has no cure and no treatment at this time, thank you to those who voted yes. To those who voted NO, please, come sit with my young children for the last 3 to 5 months of my life while they watch me die very painfully. You can tell them it was morally correct. That should help.
Owen Cash
10:02 pm on Wednesday, November 7, 2012
Jennifer, Thank you for writing this. Adding your personal experience here might help others understand. Peace above.
john
3:20 pm on Wednesday, November 7, 2012
To all who voted for the CPA please be sure to come back and give us, that opposed it, examples of where and how that self imposed tax is being spent. That money will likely disappear into thin air.What is wrong with you people? $20 to go to Winter Island,75 cents per hour to park at a meter and we vote FOR a tax increase on ourselves? The CPA has given the city to use that type of leverage against us for years to come.Between real estate,water and sewer and excise I pay the city of Salem over $5000 and now I can add the CPA. Nice job. Salem is rotting from the inside out.
KlassySalem
8:44 pm on Wednesday, November 7, 2012
John, I saw our mayor late last night, and she was obviously happy about the CPA passing. Her exact request, when I expressed my tepid feeling toward it, was to judge it by the projects that the funds are used for in the future. It would seem, on this, that you two agree.
Adam Edward
3:34 pm on Wednesday, November 7, 2012
http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/features/prepare-to-die-doctors-told-me-but-they-were-wrong-8038584.html
Adam Edward
3:41 pm on Wednesday, November 7, 2012
http://www.notdeadyet.org/assisted-suicide-talking-points
Francis P. Ardito,Sr
4:06 pm on Wednesday, November 7, 2012
In our family we have lost two grandmothers , one grandfather to cancer. All had very painful experiences. In order to relieve their pain injections were given so they may pass on more comfortably. As of now, my 98 year old mother says she is tired of living and wishes to pass on to be with my father. Don't look down your noses at caring medical assistance. It could happen to you.
patrick
8:06 pm on Wednesday, November 7, 2012
Did any of you read the bill on right to repair??I have been in the auto business for 40 years. It gives the shops the chance to purchase the scanners and the software. each make has it;s own scanners. Most scanners start at 6-12k plus software and updates each year.
so if you drive a subaru you must call around to see who has the scanner for a subaru and the vast knowledge of operating the technical device, unless the shop specializes no one with purchase the equipment. why to costly
Tom
7:10 am on Thursday, November 8, 2012
In my opinion the right to repair violates our intellectual property rights via Patent, Trademark & Copyright law. Don't complain when China supplies inferior scanners & software. Doesn't sound like our lawmakers thought this one out.
Jose O.
7:16 am on Thursday, November 8, 2012
No one will complain...because, if you fear inferior products/service, you still have the CHOICE to take your car to the dealership. That is what this bill was all about; choice. No one should be forced to take there car to a specific location to be fixed!
Mike G.
11:30 am on Thursday, November 8, 2012
As you write this on your laptop made in China.
Tom
12:21 pm on Thursday, November 8, 2012
IMO you do not have the legal right to vote or force a dealer to allow a repair shop down the street for your personal choice to infringe on ones intellectual property. The auto maker owns those copyrights to use & not sell or allow others to use as they so choose. If I were the dealer I'd set the price for the programs & scanners so high the small shop couldn't compete against the dealer. Then sue the State of MA for lost revenue. What will the state of MA do next?? Vote to establish the price of the program & scanners hahahahahahahahah
Bob
12:46 pm on Thursday, November 8, 2012
Tom, then the auto manufacturer should be required to note in plain view that if you purchase their vehicle, you can only have it serviced at a dealer. That your cost for repair will be $X more than it could have been otherwise.
One area I think also should have been addressed in this bill is the bogus billing dealers and many repair shops now use. The manufacturer says a brake job is 3 hours labor so if it takes 90 minutes, they charge for 3 hours because that is what it is allowed.
Tom
7:21 am on Friday, November 9, 2012
Agreed Bob. The consumer should educate his/her self prior to any purchase. Most consumer complaints arise from buyers who assume :-o
Copyrights/Trademarks/Patents are designed to protect the owner from his/her invention/design from anybody else owning or using them without permission from the owner. This question gave Dealers the legal right to step on the little guy and charge 100 times for the program/scanner than what they are worth. Do you really think the little guy will be able to perform work on your car cheaper after getting fleeced by the dealer. The dealer's laughing all the way to the bank with no work to perform and tons of profit. The consumer loses on this one.
Earnhardt
7:34 am on Thursday, November 8, 2012
The right to repair gives people a choice. It doesn't mean you have to go to the garage at the corner. You can still go to the dealer. It's just another option. I prefer the dealer for my repairs, Most of my dealer repairs to my vehicles are under warranty anyways, but it is nice to have a choice.
Earnhardt
9:46 am on Thursday, November 8, 2012
LOLOL Did someone just hear a pickle jar open?
Earnhardt
11:12 am on Thursday, November 8, 2012
LOLOLOLOL! Just keep talking out of your pickle hole there Sonny boy! you are always good for a laugh! :)
Earnhardt
11:31 am on Thursday, November 8, 2012
LOLOLOL Nice gut there Sonny boy. And as always more words of wisdom from Mr. Peobody and his boy Shuman. Err sorry Sherman.
Earnhardt
12:47 pm on Thursday, November 8, 2012
:=) hows it feel to have lot the edge there Mikey boy? go back to the pickles.. BTW which end of the anatomy do you eat them with? I would have answered sooner but I was taking a Sonny and Wiping my beaches... Ciao ..oh I'm sorry I forgot I was talking to you.. CHOW
Earnhardt
12:51 pm on Thursday, November 8, 2012
Oh yeah go for the spelling mistakes. that's how all losers try to win the war.... LOLOLOLOLOL CHOW... off to go over the numbers on your building... :)
Rebecca
6:50 am on Friday, November 9, 2012
If it was that easly to kill ownself, I'd be dead the 1st time out of p robably 1,000 or more that I should be. Just because some people can't find a way to do it does not mean that they want to be alive. My life has no meaning or no purpose anymore. Finally thought it did and then my good life got taken from me and I don't believe in anything any more. Anyways, this question (I didn't vote at all didn't pay attention to anything and only heard the questions to to passengers) wasn' t about having sucky lives and not wanting to live any more. This question is about
Those who are suffering from illnesses and instead of making it families right to choose, the one's in the pain should have a right to live or die in their finally days.
Yes sometimes people can turn around and be healthy but at what cost the years and pain and suffering. I've watched relatives and friends relatives suffer through years in a nursing home and some with no one to visit them. How is laying in a bed day after day just waiting to die any different then being dead. only difference is you're breathing. This question was't just for anyone to just say I don't want to be here and kill me. It was for those who have medically illnesses and I'm sure there would be screenings. It's not like a severely depressed person like myself could walk in there and ask to end my life. They would take age and other health into consideration. I just give up trying; my heart will give out in time (too long for me).
Rebecca
6:59 am on Friday, November 9, 2012
My heart I just know will end up being done by a real true thing (I did summary report on it) Broken Heart Syndrome (not always to do from a person) author of article I read ron winslow (google it). In the meantime I will have to just pretend to have a life and inside still keep on being in pain as I do suffer from a real illness: severe depression. I just don't get why I have to go try to have all the other parts to my life to have the most important part missing and not get a choice of who I want to share all the so called wonderfulness with. Again not where this question was aimed at but I struggle to wake up each morning, take months to clean apt when is messing ( took a glass of alcohol to be energized , but don't like drinking cause it makes me worse on the inside), I have to push myself to work the few hours I do and not enough in a month to pay half my bills. The job itself is more exhausting than one realizes. But even if my life was wonderful; I would still vote if I had yes on this question for those truly at their end stages and should not have to suffer and not have to put their families through that pain of watching them in pain.
Again, if one has kids and can physically and emotionally be there to help raise and support them and are healthy enough to do so, then no you should not kill yourselves just because life sucks. You had kids then you live for them.
I don't know if it can be stressed enough that this question wasn't designed depression alone
Jim Smith
9:19 pm on Friday, November 9, 2012
Voting Students and their Socialist Teachers
On the way home, I had the radio on, a liberal rant from WBUR/NPR radio. Without a trace of embarrassment or irony in Tom Ashbrooks voice, the newscaster spoke about a mock vote taken at the local high school. "Barack Obama won in a landslide," he gushed. After two generations of leftist indoctrination by unionized educators, whose quid pro quo relationship with the Democrat party is written in stone, I don't doubt it for a minute. Nor was I particularly shocked earlier this year when my daughter came home from nursing school asking me about who Madam Curie was. Also about her professors at Salem State University whom saturated my daughters mind about who was in control of her body, vaginas and future generations. Also how Obama was the Messiah and that everyone was expected to vote all Democratic this time around or else the Tea Party would take away their right to terminate 9 month old fetuses in the womb. They deferred to the Tea Party as the cause of every problem in our society from Birth Control, Rape and Homosexuality. Literacy? If it can't be reduced to 140 characters for Twitter's sake, it no longer matters.
Kids are no longer ashamed of being ignorant. In fact, many of them are proud of their cluelessness. Now, most of them barely know what shame is, other than having someone say something bad about them on FaceBook. And pride is all about owning the latest gadget, how about Sandra Fluke as the Condom Zar.
Diana
7:43 am on Saturday, November 17, 2012
Um... czar. Or tsar, or even tzar, if you prefer. And if your daughter didn't know who Madam Curie was by the time she got to college, that's on you.
Diana
8:12 am on Saturday, November 17, 2012
As an experiment, just called my high-school educated daughter.
"Quick, who's Marie Curie?"
"Discovered radium and radioactivity. Killed her of course, but she got a couple of Nobels out of it. Why?"
She also knows who Sandra Fluke is, and how to spell czar.
If your kids are ignorant, the problem isn't Salem State, it's that you failed to provide a foundation.
J.R.
8:14 am on Saturday, November 17, 2012
I'm sorry Jim. From your post it seems as if you have a problem with your daughter in nursing school learning about Madame Curie? I hope I was misinterpreting.
I don't know who her professors are, but I went to Salem State and I never heard a professor tell a class who to vote for in any election that took place while I was there. I had a double major in English and History. I would think that if any professor was going to talk about elections at all, it would be a History professor. They didn't when I was there.
I'm also confused about your comment regarding your daughter and who is in control of her body. Shouldn't your daughter be in charge of her own body? Who else would you want to take on that role?
Also, spelling seems to be a lost art on the Patch. It's 'czar' or sometimes 'tsar,' not 'Zar.' And I'm not sure how you arrive at the conclusion that Sandra Fluke is the "Condom Zar" [sic]. I respectfully ask you to take a moment and read her testimony objectively:
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2012/mar/06/context-sandra-fluke-contraceptives-and-womens-hea/
I hope you're OK. I really do.
Mike G.
8:50 am on Saturday, November 17, 2012
"Kids are no longer ashamed of being ignorant."
my sides, oh god my sides
Jesus
5:29 am on Saturday, November 17, 2012
Only God has authority over a breathing heart. He gives ife and He takes it away. We live in a fallen world. The real life is in heaven. God bless!
Anon
5:55 am on Saturday, November 17, 2012
A breathing heart?! That's terrifying! Does this heart have it's own set of lungs? Does it have other organs too? Is there is a little mini heart inside? A brain? Is it sentient? Gah!
quasimodo
7:28 am on Saturday, November 17, 2012
The Lord giveth and the Lord taketh away, Indian giver be the name of the Lord.
Jesus
5:34 am on Saturday, November 17, 2012
Love conquers all. We are hear because of the love that God has for us. We all should think of our souls and spirit not about the flesh that dies. Satan wants your soul not your flesh. I pray that the Lord will shows He love and compassion on the sick and broken hearts. He is a God of love and mercy. Peace.
Martha Magee
9:09 am on Saturday, November 17, 2012
Fight fight fight
Argue argue argue
Judge judge judge
What a bore.
Diana
9:26 am on Saturday, November 17, 2012
Whine whine whine.
But hey, it's your free time. Do with it as you will.